Times: Scott McClellan, the press secretary to President Bush, called on you and allowed you to ask questions on a nearly daily basis. What, exactly, is your relationship with him?
Gannon/Guckert: I was just another guy in the press room. Did I try to curry favor with him? Sure. When he got married, I left a wedding card for him in the press office. People are saying this proves there is some link. But as Einstein said, "Sometimes a wedding card is just a wedding card."
Times: You mean like "sometimes a cigar is just a cigar"? That wasn't Einstein. That was Freud.
Gannon/Guckert: Oh, Freud. O.K. I got my old Jewish men confused.
Times: You should learn the difference between them if you want to work in journalism.